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Jim Hill talks with animation industry vet Dale Baer about how he transitioned from doing traditional animation on \u201cHome on the Range\u201d to doing CG on \u201cChicken Little\u201d and \u201cA Day with Wilbur Robinson.\u201d<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Disney animator Dale Baer remembers when he got the phone call that changed the course of his career.<\/p>\n

He was seated at his desk, working on Alameda Slim \u2013 the comic villain for Walt Disney Feature Animation\u2019s recent release, \u201cHome on the Range\u201d \u2013 when the phone rang. So Dale picks the receiver up \u2026 and who\u2019s on the line but Baer\u2019s old buddy, \u201cThe Emperor\u2019s New Groove\u201d producer Randy Fullmer.<\/p>\n

These two industry vets shoot the breeze for a bit. Then Randy \u2013 in a very off-handed sort of way \u2013 tells Dale: \u201cYou should maybe start thinking about taking some computer animation classes.\u201d<\/p>\n

That was when Baer realized what Fullmer was actually up to. Randy was quietly putting out the word among his friends & associates that things were about to change at the Mouse House. And those that didn\u2019t embrace this coming change might soon find themselves left behind.<\/p>\n

So \u2013 following Randy\u2019s advice — Baer immediately threw himself into computer animation classes. By day, Dale would continue to traditionally animate his HOTR character (FYI: \u201cHome on the Range\u201d just debuted on DVD in the U.S. today). By night (as well as early, early in the morning), Baer would sit down in front of a computer and \u2013 as he wrestled with a mouse \u2013 tried to teach himself how to master Maya.<\/p>\n

Dale admits that making the transition from being a traditional animator to becoming someone who\u2019s fluent in CG wasn\u2019t all that easy for him. \u201cAt first, it was a real struggle. I had to take classes for a year and a half. Learn all this new tech stuff as well as hold up my end on \u2018Home on the Range.\u2019 \u201c<\/p>\n

But the end result was that Baer was still on Disney\u2019s payroll after WDFA finally finished its all-too-painful downsizing. Where once over 2000 pushed pencils for Disney Feature Animation, now only 600 artists & technicians remained.<\/p>\n

Obviously Dale considers himself lucky, both that he survived all of the Disney Feature Animation\u2019s personnel cuts as well as that he now works with so many helpful people in the newly CG-ified WDFA.<\/p>\n

\u201cWhen I first got started on \u2018Chicken Little,\u2019 I was kind of in over my head,\u201d admitted Baer. \u201cBut \u2013 whenever I said I was having trouble with any of the scenes that I was working on \u2013 my office was suddenly filled with all these people who were eager to help me get a handle on all the technological stuff.\u201d<\/p>\n

Clearly, Dale eventually got the hang of things. For \u2013 just recently \u2013 he transitioned from doing incidental scenes for \u201cChicken Little\u201d to animating one of the featured characters in Walt Disney Feature Animation\u2019s upcoming release, \u201cA Day with Wilbur Robinson.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201c \u2018Wilbur\u2019 \u2018s going to be a great, great movie when it\u2019s done,\u201d Baer enthused. \u201cThe story just grabs you right off the bat. Plus it\u2019s got this wacky \u2018Back to the Future\u2019 \u2013like stuff in it. But \u2013 at the same time \u2013 it\u2019s a pretty traditional Disney story with plenty of heart.\u201d<\/p>\n

But \u2013 for now \u2013 now that he seems to have a role in WDFA\u2019s future, Dale\u2019s willing to look back on Disney\u2019s not-so-distant past. As in: The last year or so that Baer spent working on \u201cHome on the Range.\u201d<\/p>\n

Dale seems somewhat mystified that \u201cHOTR\u201d didn\u2019t do better during its initial theatrical release. \u201cBased on what we\u2019d been hearing about the movie\u2019s test screening, we thought we had a hit on our hands,\u201d he explained. \u201cThe picture was supposedly testing well with kids and adults. So we were really surprised when \u2018Home\u2019 didn\u2019t do all that well when it hit theaters back in April.\u201d<\/p>\n

Still, Baer doesn\u2019t have any regrets about working on that picture. \u201cIt was a delight to work with John (Sanford) and Will (Finn),\u201d said Dale, when talking about \u201cHome on the Range\u201d \u2018s team of directors. \u201cYou couldn\u2019t find two nicer or more professional people in the industry.\u201d<\/p>\n

Plus Dale seems pleased that the character that he worked on \u2013 Alameda Slim \u2013 has been repeatedly singled out for praise by the film\u2019s critics. \u201cSlim was a lot of fun to work on,\u201d Baer continued.<\/p>\n

Dale particularly liked working with Randy Quaid, the Hollywood veteran who provided Alameda Slim\u2019s voice. \u201cI\u2019d go to the recording session and watch Randy do his thing. He\u2019s this really low-key guy as he walks on stage. But \u2013 once he gets behind the mic and gets into character \u2013 all hell would break loose.\u201d<\/p>\n

Of course, Slim wasn\u2019t always a fun character to work on. In the early, early versions of \u201cHome on the Ranch\u201d \u2018s story, Alameda was a ghost rider. As in: A spectral steer snatcher. A long dead cowboy who stole other people\u2019s cattle because \u2026 Well \u2026 In this early incarnation of \u201cHOTR,\u201d Disney\u2019s story people never really could get a handle on why Slim needed to steal all those cows.<\/p>\n

\u201cPlus the other problem with that early version of Alameda Slim was that the character was a ghost,\u201d continued Baer. \u201cAnd does a cow go about capturing a ghost?\u201d<\/p>\n

Disney\u2019s story department continued to struggle with Alameda\u2019s motivation. Eventually even changing \u201cHOTR\u201d \u2018s villain from a ghost rider to this flesh-and-blood guy who wanted to use a huge herd of cattle to help him become President of the United States. (I know that sounds strange. But it\u2019s true, folks. Check out the \u201cDeleted Scenes\u201d section of your \u201cHome on the Range\u201d DVD. Select the \u201cSlim for President\u201d sequence and you\u2019ll see what I mean.)<\/p>\n

Eventually, all that \u201cSlim for President\u201d stuff fell by the wayside. And all that remained was a much more simple explanation for this character\u2019s behavior. Alameda was rustling all of these cattle because he was try to raise money to acquire all of the ranches in the territory.<\/p>\n

\u201cSo how did Slim steal all those steers?,\u201d you ask. In \u201cHome on the Range\u201d \u2018s most memorable scene, Alameda reveals his secret. He uses his awesome yodeling ability to put those cows in a trance.<\/p>\n

To hear Dale tell it, he had a really great time working on \u201cHOTR\u201d \u2018s \u201cYodel-Adle-Eedle-Idle-Oo\u201d number. \u201cMyself, I don\u2019t dance worth a hoot,\u201d Baer explained. \u201cSo I studied Charles Durning\u2019s performance in the movie version of \u2018Best Little Whorehouse in Texas.\u2019 It was really amazing to see that a guy of Durning\u2019s size could be so light on his feet.\u201d<\/p>\n

So Dale used Charles for Slim\u2019s inspiration. And the end result can be seen on the Disney DVD that\u2019s currently on sale in the States.<\/p>\n

With \u201cHome on the Range\u201d now behind him and having already wrapped up his role on WDFA\u2019s June 2005 release, Baer\u2019s eager to get to work on \u201cA Day with Wilbur Robinson.\u201d As well as learn what audiences think of \u201cChicken Little.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cI think that people are really going to be surprised with this picture,\u201d Dale explained. \u201cDisney\u2019s doing things with feathers & fur on \u2018Chicken Little\u2019 that\u2019s miles ahead of what everyone else in the industry\u2019s doing right now. That \u2013 and it really is a funny film.\u201d<\/p>\n

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Author\u2019s note: I gotta tell you, gang. I really enjoyed interviewing Dale Baer on the phone. To hear this guy \u2013 who\u2019d done such memorable work in the past as a traditional animator (I.E. Yzma in WDFA\u2019s December 2000 release, \u201cThe Emperor\u2019s New Groove\u201d as well as supervising the entire Toontown sequence in that 1988 Touchstone Pictures \/ Amblin Productions masterpiece, \u201cWho Framed Roger Rabbit\u201d) \u2013 talking with such enthusiasm about the future, how much he enjoyed working with CG \u2026 Well, it gave me hope that maybe the coming transition won\u2019t really be so bad. That people like Dale will make sure that the traditions of great traditional animation (I.E. Good story telling, memorable characters, etc. ) will live on as CG becomes more & more prevalent in the industry.<\/em><\/p>\n

Here\u2019s hoping anyway. Your thoughts?<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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